@oppostate Here's the problem for Christians: once you accept that life evolved, you dismiss Adam and Eve from being our "parents". Hence with no Original Sin committed, you therefore have to postulate that Jesus came to earth to die for... what? Mythical people? The whole house of cards collapses on top of a deity who sacrificed his life to compensate for a sin that never happened 6,000 years ago.
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Are you a Christian Who Accepts Evolution?
by cofty inif you identify as a christian but you have accepted that the diversity of life - including humans - resulted from a process of biological evolution could you add your name please?.
just to be clear i am referring to the fact that our physical lineage could literally be traced back all the way to non-human species.. if you like maybe you could comment on why you see not conflict between evolution and your christian faith.. there is a tendency to conflate evolution with atheism.
it would be good to show that this is not the case..
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Stonewalling and the Governing Body
by UnshackleTheChains inwhy do the gb stonewall individuals with legitimate questions.
for example, they refuse to speak to investagative journalists like trey bundy, unless they happen to get caught somewhere walking about in the street by chance.. i remember the panorama documentary 'suffer the little children' where the presenter tried to arrange an interview with one of the gb.
i can't remember if the gb either refused or simply didn't reply.
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@stuckinarut2: "Jesus supposedly said 'you are the light of the world...do not hide your light under a basket...but let it shine...etc'. So why do 'Christ's brothers' act so defensively and secretively?"
Because they're "basket" cases. That's why.
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Awkward conversations of Governing Body Advisors - "Tony, you might what to take some time off, you're an asshole"
by jambon1 inis there anyone who will just say it straight in bethel?.
"governing body members, you're embarrassing us with every broadcast.
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@freddo Come again?!
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So now the JW's are setting up carts/stands in our national and public parks!
by StoneWall inthought i'd share this article i was sent today.
it's getting to where you can't go and take a leisurely stroll or hike without being bombarded with the stufff we want to get away from.http://www.citizen-times.com/story/sports/outdoors/girls-gone-outdoors/2017/07/06/proselytizing-blue-ridge-parkway/452390001/.
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The ironic thing is, they're sitting next to a sign that prohibits littering. All I see is a big pile of garbage set up for display.
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Can the GB be directed by Holy Spirit and at the same time be not inspired ?
by Chook inyes god directs our writings but they're not inspired, so gods directions are staggered and overlapping , so the genuine innocent believing jw has a wonderful life of overlapping bullshit.
so next time you meet a jw priest ask them what is the difference between being directed and inspired, then i promise you will hear first hand an example of overlapping bull..
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Yes. "Guided" by Holy Spirit. "Directed" by it. Yet "not inspired" by it. That's like saying this computer I'm typing on is running on electricity, even though it's NOT PLUGGED IN and never has been. All I'd be left with is a dead computer collecting dust. To suggest that there's a spark of electricity running through it (ie, "Holy Spirit directed") would be blatant lunacy. The blank screen (WT's empty prophecies) speaks volumes for itself.
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Forcing a meaning?
by CitizenofEarth ini was looking for the word that jwfacts.com used for "forcing a meaning" into ex.
a scripture.
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@jp1692 I'll take "eisegesis" for $200, Alex.
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Forcing a meaning?
by CitizenofEarth ini was looking for the word that jwfacts.com used for "forcing a meaning" into ex.
a scripture.
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I'm not sure. Infer? Lloyd Evans also uses the term "superimposes" in reference to the subjective and biased spin that the GB puts on scriptures. I don't know, otherwise.
Paging @jwfacts....
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Why do ones that got out come back in?
by moreconfusedthanever ini have not been to a meeting for about 2 years now.
i do not intend to go back but one thing has me baffled.
why do ones that have faded and been out for years return?
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@stuckinarut2 It's their way of redeeming themselves before Jehovah (WT) and using their "outing" of an apostate as a means to make up for inactivity.
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Comparing 1987 to 2017 --- cart witnessing
by pleaseresearch intake a ride with me back to 1987. picture yourself in your town, or city centre.
remember the clothes people wore, the hairstyles etc.... now imagine yourself doing your ministry out on the street, engaging with people, speaking with them, striking up conversations.
now, how would you feel, and what would you say, if you noticed two people appear nearby with a cart.
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Mind blown. The changes in the organization are so subtle and gradual that we don't really notice them. But to juxtapose the two decades like you just did reveals how hypocritical the Society is. Watchtower IS the Christendom they loathe and wish to eviscerate.
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Are JWs "mind trained" to be habitual liars?
by nonjwspouse ini don't mean overly obvious, or otherwise meaning to cause harm, but taught to lie for the purpose of avoidance.
this type of lying can be pervasive in areas of life that are not just to avoid discussions with people who have questions about the jw, etc.
my husband will lie/be deceitful about the silliest, simple things.
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Most of the counsel given in the Theocratic Ministry School (which teaches Witnesses how to conduct themselves during house-to-house encounters) has this undertone: